February 26, 2025 58:42 S6:E93

⏱️ Making Time: Creativity over Productivity — with Maria Bowler

How do we stay creative — when there’s so much to do and so much at stake?

Today I’m joined by writer, coach, and retreat leader Maria Bowler for a practical and philosophical conversation about:

The difference between productivity & creativity
Why we don’t want to focus on “being efficient” or “maximizing ROI”
How to actually be present (without feeling like you’re just being told to “be present”)
The pain of alienation & how it permeates our daily lives
Distinguishing between creative friction & oppressive friction
Why creating more isn’t about doing less
How to stretch time, lose track of it, and be with yourself beyond the clock
What Maria thinks about social media this year

If you love this conversation, make sure to get yourself a copy of Maria’s book, Making Time! Off the Grid listeners get a special discount and free shipping at this link. (sponsored)

RESOURCES + LINKS
👋 Download the FREE Leaving Social Media Toolkit
🌐 Join the Interweb for courses + community
🌸 Peep the Clubhouse for bonus episodes + emails
💌 Learn more about purchasing ad space + sponsoring the show

📲 Support for this show comes from Podcast Magic. It’s a way to save your fave pod moments AND help shows like Off the Grid grow. If a line sticks with you today, screenshot your player, email it to podcastmagic@sublime.app, and you’ll get a transcript + clip you can share. Try it 3 times for free, and use the code OFFTHEGRID for 10% off more. Enjoy! (sponsored)

Creators and Guests